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I think you have a point, Chas, but I don't think it's only the wives who are seduced by the home comforts! I also think the tradition for cramped engine installations dates from the time when yachts had graceful narrow sterns, and there simply wasn't room for easy access. Builders put the engine in at a very early stage of construction (probably before the "lid" was bonded in place) and left the poor owner to wonder what to do when it came to taking the thing out, as almost inevitably has to happen eventually.

Some boat builders have become more considerate in terms of putting in inspection panels all round the engine, now that sterns are wider, but David is right about cramming in the shower etc. Some builders are also now putting in removable headlinings, so it is possible to replace worn out deck gear without wrecking the entire interior of the boat. But such practicalities seem to be depressingly low on the order of priorities.

My particular hate (apart from engine access etc) is the minimal amount of stowage included in many of these "spacious" modern designs. I have sailed on a cruiser/racer (maybe the other way round) where there was not room to put even a small jar of coffee anywhere in the galley, although it all looked incredibly flash!

People who have owned a number of boats, gradually progressing up the size range, as used to be the norm, are not so easily fooled, because they know what they are looking for - to suit their own sailing style and requirements - when it comes to choosing the next one. But I think a lot of the people who are currently buying their first boat in the 40-plus foot range may be making some fairly ill-advised choices.

They are not well served by some of the magazine reviews, which seem to devote a lot more space to the "luxury" interior than how well the thing sails, or whether there is anywhere to stow a family's kit and provisions for a fortnight's holiday, or indeed whether it is possible to get at the back of the engine!

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When my very much adored and loved wife asked me if we could have carpet on the sole I said,  

"no this is a sailing yacht not a caravan!" end of conversation.

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Hi Cathy

I had a rant about this very subject a few years ago when Fred and Roxy were around.

Maybe you are right about cramped engines dating back to when yachts had graceful narrow sterns but I'd have thought with their full keels the engines would have been further forward. At the end of the day if they wee cramming them in then it was still wrong. You rely on the engine but if it's not accessible it won't be properly maintained which means it won't be reliable.

I guess if any magazine reviewer ever told the truth, that magazine would never get another boat to review.

Cheers and have a good weekend

Chas

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Quite right Scotty, nobody would be walking salt water into a caravan and once salt is in a carpet; it will remain (except on very dry days) almost permanently wet.
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The design of sailboats and yachts is a real compromise isn't it?

Have the engine accessible and a lot of other things suffer. Thank goodness one size doesn't fit all.         

Anyway, it's Friday pm, the wind is blowin' and I'm off to get my radio check and give my passage plan related to my CG66 on Ch.67 to Solent Coastguard and sail into the sunset.

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To be honest Scotty if the access to an inboard engine was going to comprimise too many other things inside, I'd rather find a way of hanging an outboard on the transom.

The problems are caused when they try to cram 40' accommodation into a 30' boat.

Cheers, have a good one and remember; even a bad day on the boat is still better than a good day at work!

Chas

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Something to be said for the centre cockpit in my mine-the whole floor comes up in two pieces revealing engine and gearbox with front of engine being accessed by removing companionway steps and clipped on bulkhead panel.Prop shaft and stern greaser being accessed from under the aft cabin sole.Because this  is a beamy boat and batteries are no longer secured next to engine you can stand straddled the engine and either side of the gearbox.

-and because its a semi enclosed wheel house with zip in enclosing panels you can work in total comfort.It reminds me of my first car-a Ford Thames Camping van forward control with engine with lift up lid next to you.

-and horrors of horrors I do have a carpet in the cabin and before anyone says anything I have done plenty of time in open cockpits with ski goggles on to see where I am going and gloves to keep my hands warm.

Phil

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Well now carpets - another pet hate.

Several years ago, I borrowed an Impala (jointly owned by a friend & one of my brothers) my boat was awaiting a new mast.

The boat had a carpet (you have to wonder a carpet on an Impala of all boats) half way across the North Sea, we noticed maggots crawling around the boat - we started cleaner her in the approved fashion, bucket of fresh water, fairy liquid, chuck around inside of boat, pump out. On lifting the carpet we discovered it was alive, so it was consigned to the deep!

20 years later my brother still complain that we threw his carpet overboard!


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